Monday 20 April 2009

History of my critics

My critics are very straightforward and some of my words are quite rude. I know that and this is not my normal style.

But there are situations when wrong politeness doesn't bring you any further. This is here the case.

I am not disclosing all of the details of the history behind this blog but I first tried it the conventional way and I even contacted Lukas Renggli on the phone. The reactions by the mailing list and by Herr Renggli were quite similar and showed that there was no interest in improving documentation and coding style.

My proposals to contribute documentation and code were simply rejected!

Through this and over time I had to get to the conclusion that there must be well hidden commercial interests behind this attitude. I don't mind people making money but I think that one should not pretend being the Samaritian but in reality act just to the opposite. This was the case. Maybe I'm wrong with my assumptions but this is my impression that I gained from my previous attempts to improve Seaside.

There is no excuse for missing documentation - after about 7 years in the project!

Therefore, please see this blog - which is certainly using some unfriendly phrases - as the attempt to put public pressure on these extremely self assured advocates and developers who have been totally immune to advise.

My only goal is to have Seaside improved, because we have invested far too much in Seaside and have lost a lot of time and money because of the criticised deficiencies.

Remember: My own offers to contribute were completely rejected!

19 comments:

  1. >My own offers to contribute were completely >rejected!

    Can you show us where and when?

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  2. I could but I won't.

    Because some people are just waiting for my identity. Very sad that one is forced to choose this way but I have my very bad experiences from the Smalltalk arena (and heard even more).

    See reactions of James Robertson on the mailing list.

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  3. Hey... still not getting it, huh? You're fun, man... :-)

    But seriously.

    "some of my words are quite rude. I know that and this is not my normal style." - bullshit. It is the only thing we've seen so far, so we can only suppose it to be your normal style. Please give us an example of what you suppose to be normal.

    "politeness" - so now you're beginning to grasp the difference between political correctness and politeness. That is the first sign of potential mental progress on your behalf I've noticed. Ever. But still, there is something you should know: choosing to be politically incorrect is, under certain circumstances, acceptable. Being outright impolite - as you have constantly been - is *not*.

    "My proposals to contribute documentation and code were simply rejected!" - bullshit. What is this, a vile attempt to stylize yourself as a martyr? Some of them have been (and still are being) discussed. That is not "simply rejected". Please do try to see how the rest of the world reacts to you. If that is possible for a narcissist at all.

    "there must be well hidden commercial interests behind this attitude" - bullshit, conspiracy theories, and more bullshit.

    "Therefore, please see this blog - which is certainly using some unfriendly phrases - as the attempt to put public pressure on these extremely self assured advocates and developers who have been totally immune to advise." - no, I see it as a narcissist's way of expressing themselves. By the way, it's "advice".

    "My only goal is to have Seaside improved" - bullshit. Your only goal is to show off yourself.

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  4. "Beaten dogs bark are barking loudest".

    Why don't you stick to my technical critics? Or do you have excuse for the missing documentation?

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  5. "Beaten dogs bark are barking loudest" - check your grammar, man.

    Apart from that, I have a question and a remark.

    Question: so who beat you? (You didn't answer that earlier, but I thought I'd give it another try. In any case you're among the loudest barkers ever, so who beat you?)

    Remark: I'm not a Seaside developer, and I'm only an occasional user of it. Frankly, I don't care much about its internal qualities as long as it works for me, so I don't have any emotional connection to it that could make me a "beaten dog". Also, I despise your style, not your opinions.

    Oh, one more thing: "Why don't you stick to my technical critics?" - why don't you stick to being constructive and *to the point*? Why all that impoliteness?

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  6. @Anonymous
    "By the way, it's "advice".

    1) How many languages do you speak and write?
    2) Do you use speech recognition in any other but your mother language. If at all?
    3) If so, do you always see and correct all typos / wrong interpretations?

    If not then you better shut up with your Anglo-Saxon language imperialism - unless you speak at least another two languages fluently - not to mention a few others.

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  7. @Anonymous at 11:12
    "check your grammar, man."

    It's all said regard language(s) in my previous reply!

    And if you are not a developer, why should and how could I discuss technical issues with you?

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  8. Hey hey, I'm not an Anglo-Saxon. I just happen to know my English. :-)

    To answer your questions...

    I speak and write two languages (one of which is my native tongue, of course - but that's not English, mind you) fluently, and one more enough to call for help and order dinner. ;-)

    I write myself and don't use speech recognition software. It gives me too little control over the result ("advise", eh?).

    And yes, I *do* care about spelling and grammar. If I'd use speech recognition software, I'd double-check nevertheless.

    "And if you are not a developer, why should and how could I discuss technical issues with you?" - I'm not asking you to discuss technical issues with you. Quoting myself: "I despise your style, not your opinions." Some of the latter are bullshit of course, but the style, man, the style...

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  9. "Hey hey, I'm not an Anglo-Saxon. I just happen to know my English. :-)

    I speak and write two languages "

    That is probably why?! *ggg*
    (Because you're not A-S)

    If you are perfect - great for you. I am not. Nor is my name "nobody". But it's always great to meet Mr. Perfect - even if only on a blog.

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  10. Hey, I never claimed perfection for myself. Please check my postings again and point me to the according phrases. I agree being called a perfectionist, but those are usually not perfect, right? Ah, you're perhaps just mixing up terminology again, like with politeness vs. political correctness...

    Your attempt to belittle me is another example of that behavioral trait of yours: someone rightfully pointing out a mistake on your behalf just *must* have some flaw you can look down your nose at. Do you need that to feel better?

    Man, you're so pathetic...

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  11. I want to discuss technical issues. You wrote yourself that you were not the right person.
    So what?

    On the Seaside mailing list there are lots of Germans (ethnically meant), French, Slavs etc. who might need a little hand with their English grammar.

    They will love you for your corrections - even more than me for my technical critics!
    :-)))

    Or if you want language discussions, there are certainly forums or blogs specialized in such subjects.

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  12. If you want to discuss technical issues, then why don't you? Why do you continue bullshitting and putting off people that are normally well receptive to criticism and suggestions?

    Your lack of self-reflection is astonishing.

    I wouldn't impose myself on those friendly people on the Seaside mailing list. They normally have good style. You don't, so you deserve being squeezed from all directions. Hence the lingual correctness itch.


    Those are *nice* people. You're *not*.

    Re "all directions": I haven't even really started pointing out all the *logical* flaws in your argumentation... but you wouldn't get the point anyway, that must be beyond your mental capabilities.

    But while I'm at it, what about stopping to moderate comments on your blog? Heh? You advocate of free speech, you?

    Pathetic lawn gnome...

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  13. "Those are *nice* people."

    Great, then they will surely love you for your corrections! Just give it a try!

    >90% of my blog is on technology - and rising!

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  14. ... re-read my last post, please ...

    (hint: I would not impose myself on them *because* they are nice; they do not deserve my wrath *because* they are nice; ...)

    Get it? No. I knew that.

    Twerp.

    Rise rise. Don't stop when you cross the border of the solar system.

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  15. You start stealing my time! The worst sin of all! Good night!

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  16. >>>My own offers to contribute were completely >rejected!
    >>>
    >>Can you show us where and when?
    >>
    >I could but I won't.
    >

    So how should one be able to believe you?

    >Because some people are just waiting for my identity

    And - whats the problem with your identity? Do you think they
    will visit you at home during night?

    >have my very bad experiences from the Smalltalk arena (and
    >heard even more).

    Reread what you say! If you have a problem with one commercial
    vendor or specific seaside persons you should not blame
    the whole community (which is very supportive). This is childish!

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  17. "So how should one be able to believe you?"

    Just read my technical proposals and judge them. And judge me by them.

    Plenty of comments on "politics" here, not a single one yet on my many issues in Proposal 1 on WARequest.

    Even Seasiders seem more interested in politics and "community feeling" than improving their tool. Very sad!

    "problem with one commercial vendor"
    I have seen how a software company was driven out of business by a monpolistic vendor (neither Smalltalk in this case, nor "my" company).

    And after all that I have seen in several industries I do not trust big companies any more, especially not *US companies*.

    "community (which is very supportive)"
    If the Seaside community was "supportive" and wants to be taken seriously they would have insisted on a proper in-code documentation over >7 years. There is no excuse for that!

    But even today they ignore this!

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  18. Anything we have heard so far is lamenting on the current situation. You are the one who seem to be interesting in politics and not the others. Otherwise you would have filed bugs or corrected mistakes like any other instead of trying to get attention on a separate blog and disparage others work while trying to stay anonymously. I think the reaction of the community to all this is acceptable.

    Go and visit a psychiatrist!

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  19. This is another serious technical discussion of my critics and proposals!

    "Current" means for three years at least. See "Not learning from mistakes" (2006).

    In other words: Who doesn't love Seaside's deficiencies needs a psychiatrist!

    This blog has a long history and it is the only *re-action* left to the total ignorance of the developers to "state of the art" - and that is, at least and doubtlessly, true for my requirement to document the code.

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